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Custom build. Maybe...

Postby BIGERN76 » Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:48 am

Hey folks! I have not been on here in a while. Glad to see the page is still ticking along!
I am considering trying to ease myself into a semi custom, semi long range build. I have a few Remington rifles and I love them so I was thinking about starting with a Remington platform. However, I do like the Browning's as well. I think I want to do a .280AI. From what I was reading, that caliber is supposed to produce performance close to that of the 7mm WSM with a bit less recoil and maybe a tad cheaper to shoot. Thoughts, experience, know someone who knows someone?
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Re: Custom build. Maybe...

Postby chadbragg » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:11 am

No experience with the 280ai but that is a hot round! I really like my creedmoor for box store ammo it shoots incredible.


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Re: Custom build. Maybe...

Postby BIGERN76 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:28 am

At one time, I was looking at getting a hells canyon in 6.5 Creedmore. Everything I have read says it is a very accurate round. I was just looking at something a little different.
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Re: Custom build. Maybe...

Postby jbullard1 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:19 am

If you go with the 280AI you will have to reload. I'm sure you already know that. The ballistics of the 7mm bullet are very impressive with a mildish recoil. You get an added 100-125 fps with the 280AI vs the 280Rem/7mm/06, and 7mm Express as it was once called. Compared to the older 7mmMag you are only losing 100-150 fps and running out of the muzzle at 3100 fps I doubt a deer or elk would know the difference.
I do not think you will be disappointed in that round.
Brass will not be an issue as you can resize 30/06 and 7mm projectiles are everywhere.

All that said, the Remington 700 action is one of the finest actions made and is very easy to customize and blueprint. Consider a longer heavy barrel for stability.

This round will easily be a 500-600 yard shooter.
Before I got my semi custom Remington 700 in the old school 30-06 the 280Rem was high on my list.
You will enjoy the round.
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Postby BIGERN76 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:18 pm

I have a modest reloading setup that I haven't used yet. I will have to do some more reading but I think I read that I could fire form regular .280 brass in the AI. Am I correct in thinking that I will have to buy a .280 and have it machined to the .280AI or can I buy a factory gun in that caliber and modify at my leisure?
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Re: Custom build. Maybe...

Postby jbullard1 » Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:16 am

BIGERN76 wrote:I have a modest reloading setup that I haven't used yet. I will have to do some more reading but I think I read that I could fire form regular .280 brass in the AI. Am I correct in thinking that I will have to buy a .280 and have it machined to the .280AI or can I buy a factory gun in that caliber and modify at my leisure?


You can fire form regular 280 brass into the 280AI.
I am not aware of a factory rifle that is chambered in the 280AI. You can always buy the standard 280 and work on it as you see fit. My opinion is once you shoot the standard round you may not want to convert to the 280AI.
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Re: Custom build. Maybe...

Postby BIGERN76 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:41 pm

Time will tell...
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Re: Custom build. Maybe...

Postby stickers » Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:58 am

Unless you are wanting to shoot 160g or above ammo then there isnt enough difference in a 280 REM and 280AI to make much of a difference imo. Nosler makes both 280AI ammo and rifles . I looked at one when ended up going with the 28Nosler. Also Kimber makes a model in 280AI. There is no doubt that the 280AI is a good round but the difference is very minimal to a 280 REM , especially if you reload. My wife mostly hunts with a 280 REM round in 160g that is pushing 2975fps (chronographed). Also unless your 700s have a longer barrel you probably wont get the fps that are advertised. The 280AI is definitely a very efficient round though.
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Postby BIGERN76 » Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:58 pm

Thanks for the input. I didn't realize the .280 Rem was moving that fast. I am looking to get a gun with a 24" barrel just because of what you said. I found a couple already built but they are expensive. However, I expect this will be a costly project anyway. One I found is a Christensen Arms rifle but I will have to do some research on the life of the carbon fiber barrels.
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Re: Custom build. Maybe...

Postby stickers » Sun Sep 09, 2018 5:42 am

BIGERN76 wrote:Thanks for the input. I didn't realize the .280 Rem was moving that fast. I am looking to get a gun with a 24" barrel just because of what you said. I found a couple already built but they are expensive. However, I expect this will be a costly project anyway. One I found is a Christensen Arms rifle but I will have to do some research on the life of the carbon fiber barrels.


You can only achieve that can of velocity if you handload with the right powder. I know another person who is getting more velocity than me but I started sacrificing accuracy as I kept climbing the ladder. I still continue to be shocked at how hard you can push a 280REM with little to no signs of pressure. With some powders I have come to the conclusion that you will run out of case space before showing signs of pressure. I do not promote doing this( ;) ) but if so then to remember to take baby steps as every rifle is different.
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Re: Custom build. Maybe...

Postby BIGERN76 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:03 am

Baby steps on the powder, check!
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