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Postby johndavid78 » Sat Sep 08, 2012 9:25 am

Ok, I've been using a cheap bushnell for 5 years. When I bought my rifle, I told myself that I would upgrade to a better scope later...it's been later.

Any help and suggestions for a good scope is much appreciated. I'm kind of dumb about these things.

I shoot a browning x-bolt .270 short mag

Would like mil dots, waterproof and fog proof, and good light absorption.
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Re: Ask msdeer -new scope help

Postby jbullard1 » Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:41 am

I've been using cheap Tasco and Bushnells for ever. Not many complaints from either. My highend scope is a Swift 3x9
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Re: Ask msdeer -new scope help

Postby jv » Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:18 pm

Myself i like the Nikon better than most the others and have no complaints....i have three mounted on guns right now and thinking of replaceing a older Redfield with one but the Redfield in about 40 years old and still works great.
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Re: Ask msdeer -new scope help

Postby chadbragg » Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:08 pm

I LOVE Bushnell elite! They are a lil privy but great scopes
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Re: Ask msdeer -new scope help

Postby patinlouisiana » Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:52 pm

I have Leupold scopes on my encore barrels and love them.
That said, I have a Charles Daly scope on my 30-30 and Simons 44 Mag on my Savage, A Redfield on my Rem. 742.
The latest scope I bought was the Nikon Prostaff 22LR for my new plinker.
I know there are those that would disagree but I think in recent years you would be hard pressed to find a bad scope.
In any brand you like go for the largest front objective you can afford.
My VX-III 3-10 x 50mm looks great in low light situations. My 44 Mag is a close second.
The smaller ones I don't use in the morning or evening.
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Re: Ask msdeer -new scope help

Postby gtk » Sat Sep 08, 2012 8:07 pm

Totally depends on how much $$ you plan on spending.
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Ask msdeer -new scope help

Postby johndavid78 » Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:22 am

Well, a budget of around 750 would be my limit I guess. Not really sure what to expect
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Re: Ask msdeer -new scope help

Postby jv » Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:48 am

Are you looking around in Batesville...i think Hunters Hollow in Oxford will have a larger selection or either Lakeway in Grenada.
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Re: Ask msdeer -new scope help

Postby jbullard1 » Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:00 am

johndavid78 wrote:Well, a budget of around 750 would be my limit I guess. Not really sure what to expect


You should be able to get some GOOD glass for that amount
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Re: Ask msdeer -new scope help

Postby jv » Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:17 am

jbullard1 wrote:
johndavid78 wrote:Well, a budget of around 750 would be my limit I guess. Not really sure what to expect


You should be able to get some GOOD glass for that amount


Ain't that the truth.....could get me a gun and scope :W:
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Re: Ask msdeer -new scope help

Postby johndavid78 » Sun Sep 09, 2012 3:26 pm

jbullard1 wrote:
johndavid78 wrote:Well, a budget of around 750 would be my limit I guess. Not really sure what to expect


You should be able to get some GOOD glass for that amount


well, right now, I think my gun is a lot more capable than my scope...especially in low light conditions or shots >250 yds....that's why I was asking for help...not sure where to start (what brand, what specs should I look for, etc.)
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Re: Ask msdeer -new scope help

Postby jbullard1 » Sun Sep 09, 2012 3:46 pm

johndavid78 wrote:
jbullard1 wrote:
johndavid78 wrote:Well, a budget of around 750 would be my limit I guess. Not really sure what to expect


You should be able to get some GOOD glass for that amount


well, right now, I think my gun is a lot more capable than my scope...especially in low light conditions or shots >250 yds....that's why I was asking for help...not sure where to start (what brand, what specs should I look for, etc.)


Why do you think your rifle is more accurate than your scope?
What ranges do you shoot?
Do you practice shooting much?

I shoot a well worn Remington 30-06 and have absolutely no problems out to 440-535 yards using the walmart Bushnell scopes. I do handload and shoot hundreds of rounds yearly. All my rifles are more accurate than me. That said, I have never owned a high end scope so I do not qualify to give you a truthful answer on them. I have a new Ruger 30-06 that I have to work up a load for but until it equals my old Remington it will stay in the rack. It is equipped with a walmart Bushnell 4x12. So far out to 100 yards I am semi-happy but I have a lot of load work to do to get what I want at 400 yards and beyond.
I'm not trying to be a smart allek just relaying my opinion.
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Re: Ask msdeer -new scope help

Postby chadbragg » Sun Sep 09, 2012 3:53 pm

I still say read up on the bushnell elite. To me you get a QUALITY piece for $500 or less!
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Re: Ask msdeer -new scope help

Postby gtk » Sun Sep 09, 2012 7:10 pm

For that money, I'd look at some German Glass. Ziess, Swarvoski.... Or some high end nikon, leupold..
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Re: Ask msdeer -new scope help

Postby dustygoodson » Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:47 pm

Leupoid for sure one I got is 12 years old and still like new paid around 550 for it
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Re: Ask msdeer -new scope help

Postby sidog » Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:51 pm

I would think for that kind of change You could get some pretty decent glass!I like Leupold VXIIIs.
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Re: Ask msdeer -new scope help

Postby Luckydawg » Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:18 am

IMO you will see the differance In optics during the last few minutes of daylight. With a vari x iii you will extend your shooting time and see with more clarity than with lower quality optics. I have shot bushnells and others and really think the elite series from bushnells is pretty good. However all of my deer rifles wear leupold Vari iii because they are are simply better. Your budget will allow you to get some great glass. I really like the B and C reticle that Leupold has . If you know the correct yardage to target the different holdover lines are accuarate.
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Re: Ask msdeer -new scope help

Postby LazyGhost » Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:18 pm

Ive always wanted a scope that would give me a few extra minutes during that time that theres still too much light to use the spotlight. :thumbsup:
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Re: Ask msdeer -new scope help

Postby gtk » Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:37 pm

LazyGhost wrote:Ive always wanted a scope that would give me a few extra minutes during that time that theres still too much light to use the spotlight. :thumbsup:

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Re: Ask msdeer -new scope help

Postby johndavid78 » Mon May 27, 2013 2:41 pm

sorry to bring up an old post, but I settled for the Nikon Monarch 4-16X50 with BDC reticle and side focus. Bought it used from the Gun Trader Facebook page. Zero'd the scope in today at 200yds as recommended, finally. Love it. Was looking through it yesterday evening at last light, and it was still crisp and clear. Draws in a lot more light than my Bushnell Banner 3-9X40.

So, I saved a bunch of cheese and stayed way under budget and feel like I got a very good scope.
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Re: Ask msdeer -new scope help

Postby jbullard1 » Mon May 27, 2013 2:53 pm

That sounds great, The final proof will be on one of those foggy dreary evenings. I upgraded one of my scopes to a 4x12 Nikon. I can't tell any difference in it and the Bushnell right now but will find out this coming season. :D
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Re: Ask msdeer -new scope help

Postby sidog » Mon May 27, 2013 8:06 pm

Leupold has great customer service I'm told but personally I've never had a problem with one of mine.I love the VX3'S but My best friend Has Ziess Conquest on nearly all His guns and I shoot his guns alot and I will have to say Ziess is quality glass!I would think for the $$'s You are talking about You should be able to get a good scope.I've read and heard lots or good reviews on the Elite scopes mentioned but I have no first hand knowledge of them.I have had problems with a Nikon Prostaff and a cheap Cabela's scope not sure who made it for them.We Varmint hunt at night alot and good glass is as important as an accurate rifle.As I've said here before I'm not a paper shooter I'm a hunter and I dont shoot thousands of rounds through My guns but My VX3'S aint let me down yet.
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Re: Ask msdeer -new scope help

Postby terry08 » Mon May 27, 2013 9:36 pm

The infrared night vision by Buck Busters is a great scope for low light conditions. Works great after all light has gone. I would suggest a silencer for the rifle, if hunting in these conditions. Lol :grin:

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Re: Ask msdeer -new scope help

Postby gtk » Tue May 28, 2013 8:24 am

JohnDavid, did you buy that scope from the guy in Olive Branch? I was looking at that scope and thought it was a pretty good deal.

I honestly believe you can't go wrong with any "higher end" glass these days. Whether its Leupold, Ziess, Nikon.... Any of the higher end glasses will allow you to see well past legal shooting light..
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Re: Ask msdeer -new scope help

Postby bruiser » Tue May 28, 2013 12:41 pm

I have 3 leupold scopes and love each one . I also have a Ziess concquest on my 7mm mag . For the $750 budget you indicated , get the zeiss and use the rest of the budget for some ammo or a brownie point present for the woman in your life !!!!!
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