• Advertisement

300 yard opinions

Discussion pertaining to Firearms & Ammo.

300 yard opinions

Postby gtk » Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:40 pm

What woudl you consider "good enough" shooting at 300 yards?

Scope 3-9x50 Zeiss
Gun Browning 300 WSM
Load 168 gr Barnes TTSX & IMR 4350
Wind light
Rest was somewhat stable.

With 3 shot groups, I could keep them within 6". To me, this just isn't good enough. I want at least 3" groups at 300 yards.

I'm thinking I need a higher power scope so I can really crank down on it. At 300 yards, the 3-9 scope still makes that target look awfully small.
User avatar
gtk
Admin
 
Posts: 19217
Joined: Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:53 pm
Location: Olive Branch, MS

Re: 300 yard opinions

Postby jbullard1 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:02 pm

What are your 100 yard groups like. They need to be 1 " max
Team 5 Co-Champion with Team 1 2014-2015
Team Genesis 2013-2014
Team Rack Blaster 2012-2013
Resident Geezer and Granpaw
User avatar
jbullard1
Granpaw
 
Posts: 8238
Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:55 pm
Location: Ellard Ms

Re: 300 yard opinions

Postby terry08 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:08 pm

I only qualified as sharp shooter in the Corp. So I ain't no expert. But at 300 yards with a six inch group. I would not want to be in your sights.

Sent from my SM-G920R7 using Tapatalk
A COUNTRY BOY CAN SURVIVE
HUNTING IS NOT A SPORT, IT'S A WAY OF LIFE

Be Carefull of The Words You Say. Just Keep Them Soft, And Sweet. You never Know From Day To Day, Which Ones You'll Have To Eat.
User avatar
terry08
Pope&Young
 
Posts: 11872
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:59 am
Location: Yazoo County MS

Re: 300 yard opinions

Postby chadbragg » Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:23 pm

My 270 shot 4" groups with 5-15 Bushnell elite. I'm hoping my 6.5 will be a little tighter, but never had a deer complain about the 4" groups.....

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Tapatalk
TEAM Rack Stackers aka THE WINNERS!!!
chadbragg
Pope&Young
 
Posts: 5337
Joined: Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:04 pm
Location: Alcorn county

Re: 300 yard opinions

Postby Cb123 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 6:53 pm

6" group at 300 yards is plenty tight. I was an expert shooter in the military...my group wasn't less than 5 at 100 yards


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Cb123
Spike
 
Posts: 82
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2015 1:05 pm

Re: 300 yard opinions

Postby Allisonboatsms » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:15 pm

Higher magnification only helps a little. To shoot that far you need a rock solid rest. My 25-06 from a bench and bag with a 2.5x10 Nikon will shoot clover leafs at 100 and about a 2 inch group at 300 if I do my part. More often than not the gun will out perform the shooter.
By the pricking of my thumbs...Something wicked this way comes.
Ruger M77 HAWKEYE 25-06 .. DEATH FROM AFAR.


TEAM 5
Allisonboatsms
6 Point
 
Posts: 277
Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:20 pm

300 yard opinions

Postby glenn » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:48 pm

Gtk, I was shooting 5-6 1/2" groups with my 300 WSM with a 4.5 to 14 Leupold using 150 grain factory loads using several brands. I was only slightly better with 168 grain, but of all things a 180 grain Core-lokt got me as close as 2 1/2, but consistently sub 3 1/2. It's been a few years since did much long distance practicing, so I would be happy hitting a pie plate at 300 now. As others have said, either one would be a dead deer.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Never mistake kindness for weakness!
Aim small, miss small!
Image
glenn
Pope&Young
 
Posts: 2895
Joined: Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:36 pm
Location: SW Mississippi

Re: 300 yard opinions

Postby terry08 » Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:20 am

glenn wrote:Gtk, I was shooting 5-6 1/2" groups with my 300 WSM with a 4.5 to 14 Leupold using 150 grain factory loads using several brands. I was only slightly better with 168 grain, but of all things a 180 grain Core-lokt got me as close as 2 1/2, but consistently sub 3 1/2. It's been a few years since did much long distance practicing, so I would be happy hitting a pie plate at 300 now. As others have said, either one would be a dead deer.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Greg, is going after them elk again, and wants it tight as he can get.

Sent from my SM-G920R7 using Tapatalk
A COUNTRY BOY CAN SURVIVE
HUNTING IS NOT A SPORT, IT'S A WAY OF LIFE

Be Carefull of The Words You Say. Just Keep Them Soft, And Sweet. You never Know From Day To Day, Which Ones You'll Have To Eat.
User avatar
terry08
Pope&Young
 
Posts: 11872
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:59 am
Location: Yazoo County MS

Re: 300 yard opinions

Postby gtk » Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:49 am

Yep.. Going after the elks again in Oct.. I'm going to load some more, get a more solid rest & try some more shooting. Although and elk is a big target, I would personally like to see it tighten up a good bit.

jbullard1 wrote:What are your 100 yard groups like. They need to be 1 " max

a hair over an inch

[quote="glenn".... but of all things a 180 grain Core-lokt got me as close as 2 1/2, but consistently sub 3 1/2. [/quote]
From what I remember reading, the 300 WSM performs best with bullets < 180 grain.. I may pick up a box of 180 nosler partitions and load some just to see the diff.
User avatar
gtk
Admin
 
Posts: 19217
Joined: Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:53 pm
Location: Olive Branch, MS

300 yard opinions

Postby triple_duece » Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:53 am

Heavier bullets work the best. Even the extreme long range shooters use 180 grain bullets. You might consider getting some trigger work done, this can improve your shots. Also make sure your barrel is free floating. I'd be looking for something under 3# on trigger pull but what your comfortable with is best as long as the trigger don't have much travel and crisp. Hope this helps.
triple_duece
10 Point
 
Posts: 616
Joined: Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:54 pm

Re: 300 yard opinions

Postby mt » Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:05 am

GTK, come by my shop and get my shooting bench. Just give me a heads up if you want to try it.
mt
10 Point
 
Posts: 649
Joined: Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:46 am
Location: Olive Branch

Re: 300 yard opinions

Postby gtk » Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:44 pm

i believe this gun has had trigger work done, because it seems like a gnats fart would set it off..

mt, thx.. I have a decent bench, but for some reason there is a model 'a' engine sitting on it at the moment :)
User avatar
gtk
Admin
 
Posts: 19217
Joined: Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:53 pm
Location: Olive Branch, MS

Re: 300 yard opinions

Postby jbullard1 » Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:36 pm

GTK
My new M-40 30-06 loves 208 gr A-Max bullets
Team 5 Co-Champion with Team 1 2014-2015
Team Genesis 2013-2014
Team Rack Blaster 2012-2013
Resident Geezer and Granpaw
User avatar
jbullard1
Granpaw
 
Posts: 8238
Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:55 pm
Location: Ellard Ms

Re: 300 yard opinions

Postby stickers » Wed Aug 24, 2016 7:26 am

In this heat I usually wait atleast 10 minutes between shots. 6" is pretty good for just a 9x scope though. I have switched to Accubonds for all my elk loads. After putting the Barnes on a chronograph I just can not get the velocity I desire from them. Had a load for my 280 that I went 8 gr. over max to finally achieve what they had in the book. Even though it still showed no pressure signs it was hard to get the bullet crammed down in the case, ha.
stickers
10 Point
 
Posts: 685
Joined: Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:31 pm

Re: 300 yard opinions

Postby gtk » Wed Aug 24, 2016 8:00 am

I've heard that about Barnes bullets.. Best velocity is supposedly achieved with lighter bullets. With the TTSX I am compressing my current load just a tad right now. Case is prob a hair over 100% capacity

I think its too late in the game for me to be changing loads right now though.. primers & powder might be too hard to come by.
User avatar
gtk
Admin
 
Posts: 19217
Joined: Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:53 pm
Location: Olive Branch, MS

Re: 300 yard opinions

Postby patinlouisiana » Wed Aug 24, 2016 6:37 pm

I know for a fact my .257 Weatherby Magnum will shoot much better than I am capable of.
If I had my lead sled with my I might take a 300 yard shot but 200 is in my comfort zone!
2017-2018 member Team 4
.257 Weatherby Magnum W/4x16 X 50 Nikon Monarch
T/C Encore 35 Whelen W/Leupold VX-I 3-9 x 50
S&W M&P 15 Sport II 5.56
Ruger Blackhawk 357 Mag W/Millet Red Dot
Canon PowerShot SX40HS
User avatar
patinlouisiana
Pope&Young
 
Posts: 2293
Joined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 7:58 pm
Location: Baton Rouge, La


Return to Guns & Ammo

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest

cron