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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 3:11 pm
by bigsteve
Got another one today shot a big bird yesterday at 40 yds turned him upside down and he ran off shooting my new Remington versa Max jelly head choke 31/2 Winchester long beard #5 came home and patterned my gun only 9 shot in the turkey siloute at 40 yds changed choke tube shot again 11 shot went to a 3" long beard #5 39 shot the 1st time and 37 the second and 41 the 3rd shot shot the 31/2 again 14 shot shot this bird at 48 yds crushed him I won't ever shoot one of those misery loads ever againImage

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 5:10 pm
by bigsteve
Arkansas. Opener in the morning gobble gobble

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:40 am
by chadbragg
I shoot the 3" long beard #5 as well. Through my Indian creek choke on my sx3 it's bad news


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:57 am
by stickers
Congrats. I got so sick of factory loads. I went to handloading TSS. I will never shoot a 12 gauge again.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:24 am
by bigsteve
That was the second bird I lost this year never had a problem with my old 1100 3" gun 30" full no screw in choke it got where it didn't handle shells this year I bought the new gun. My fault for taking someone else's word and didn't pattern it I haven't lost a bird in 20 years till this year believe I got it worked out now

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:43 am
by jv
Congrats on #2
I have always used the gobblin thunder choke tube and the old red 3 1/2 winchester #6 shot in the silver box but they are hard to find and never had a problem with them.
Never have liked the new heavy loads with the multi size shot.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:52 am
by stickers
Before next year I would get away from those Longbeards. Without question they are the most inconsistant and worse turkey shell I have ever shot. I had 2 snap on me without going off and also had another one that the resin did not break apart that the shot is encased in and was like a slug at 40 yds. The ones that did shoot had very inconsistant patterns. I have also known of several who have had the complete hull rip off and stick in the barrel. When I hear of problems with Longbeards I never never assume that it has anything to do with the gun or choke.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:54 am
by stickers
jv wrote:Congrats on #2
I have always used the gobblin thunder choke tube and the old red 3 1/2 winchester #6 shot in the silver box but they are hard to find and never had a problem with them.
Never have liked the new heavy loads with the multi size shot.



Yes, deadly combination for lead.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:14 am
by stickers
Here is the last factory load I ever shot which was a longbeard. Pathetic.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:57 am
by dustygoodson
nice bird

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:58 am
by gtk
congrats on the bird...

i have some old shells that shoot great in my gun.. the shells have been loaded/unloaded from my gun so much I can't even see the name.. they were solid red plastic the entire length.. anyway, you can't buy them anymore, and they are the best pattering shells i have ever shot out of my gun

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:35 am
by Bullie
Nice Bird. I guess I ain't good enough to know what's so bad about the picture. I did have one get away from me saturday. Shot was too far. My first year to use the longbeards. Seemed good enough in my gun.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 8:27 am
by stickers
Bullie wrote:Nice Bird. I guess I ain't good enough to know what's so bad about the picture. I did have one get away from me saturday. Shot was too far. My first year to use the longbeards. Seemed good enough in my gun.



Nothing wrong with the picture but the pattern is aweful. About 200 pellets went thru that 1 hole like a slug because the resin that the shot is encased in didnt break up. My big problem with them is that they are notorious for not going off cause they have bad primers. I had 2 from 1 box that didnt go off while patterning. I called Winchester/Olin and the girl on the phone didnt even know what Longbeard XRs were :nono: . Since then I roll my own . I never liked their 70yd lead shot turkey load marketing ploy anyways but I expected them to be as good as any other lead shell.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:38 am
by bigsteve
I am definitely not any kind of expert on shot patterns but I know which ones works for me I have some Federal premium 3" had similar results to the long beard and sure don't kick like the 31/2 " shells

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:11 am
by stickers
Here is a good pattern with a 28 gauge o/u. And I promise it kicks a lot less than any 12 and kill one much farther than anyone needs to be shooting. My 12 gauge days are over, matter of fact next year I plan on shooting a few with an old Stevens 410 that I have.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:44 am
by Bullie
I definitely smelling what you are stepping in now. That would be pretty hard to dodge.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:38 pm
by missed mallards
TSS?


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